Needed a pair of casual khakis for a work trip. I love the Democracy jeans - the waist bands are amazing but this pant did not have that and was a little looser than their traditional jeans. I probably could have gone a size down. The material was almost like a blend between jeans and khakis. Also - I am short (5'3 - 175lbs) and they came down to my ankle (which is what I was hoping for). If you are taller, they will probably be higher than your ankle.
